Can TrainerRoad add distance and speed to the live metrics please? (Feature Request)

I have a cyclops non-smart trainer hooked up to TrainerRoad and it seems to give consistent power reading and my workouts run fine.

However, what I really miss versus zwift is the speed and distance the rear wheel is travelling. (I have a speed and cadence sensor set up on the rear wheel.)

I notice that as I am linked to Strava, this distance and speed information gets uploaded to strava after each TrainerRoad workout along with the power data etc.

I know this speed and distance data isn’t necessarily completely accurate but it probably isn’t far off. That accuracy versus the real world isn’t that important, but it is consistent.

I also know this data isn’t needed to complete workouts. All you need to do is maintain a certain power figure for a set period of time etc.

However, a custom workout I would like to be able to run for example is how quickly I can complete a set distance on the trainer. I do TT’s and it would be nice to set myself a workout of doing a 10 mile TT in a certain time or a 25 mile TT etc.

It is not important how it compares to the outside world as it will be just comparing indoor rides with each other to check on my specific TT progress against time.

Can this be activated somehow? The data is obviously there in the background, otherwise it wouldn’t get posted to strava.

Maybe make it so that this can be toggled on or off etc. It would be very useful and interesting to see live. Zwift does it. I’m sure TR can too.

Thanks.

I know this is something that some people like… but speed and distance on a trainer really is meaningless…well it is zero as you are not moving.

You can make your speed/distance anything you want by altering your set up.

The best way to practice for say a 10mIle TT is to estimate the expected time then do that at target power.

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Hey there!

The root of the issue here is that we do not have a way to virtually estimate your power speed . Zwift uses an algorithm that factors in a variety of variables including your weight and power output to determine how fast you would theoretically be going outside on the road.

The speed that we measure on the other hand is simply your wheel speed. On some trainers, this may roughly equate to speed/distance on the road. On others, this may be wayyyyy off. For example, trainers with different resistance modes will register different mileage and speed depending on the mode you use. An even more extreme example is ERG trainers which could register either 30 mph or 15 mph at 200 watts depending on your gearing.

For this reason, we do not display your speed since it is not an accurate representation of your speed outdoors and has the potential to mislead our users. Power is the one, perfectly consistent metric so we want to emphasize it’s importance and encourage our users to use it as their objective benchmark.

That being said, it is possible that we may develop a Virtual Speed algorithm in the future, however, it is not currently on our roadmap and has no ETA at this time.

Thanks so much for sharing your feedback, and good luck with your training :boom:

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Check in the manufacture app settings that connects to your trainer. For instance, I use a Wahoo Kickr and in Wahoo’s app settings I can turn on Erg Mode Speed Simulation. This setting adjusts my speed based on power/watts and not wheel speed (which is affected by gearing and cadence). So when I upload to Strava my miles are consistent no matter my gearing or cadence, which is an issue without Speed Simulation.

Though miles don’t matter much, I at least wanted consistent results since 90% of my training is indoors. Also, I’ve found when doing TR workouts outside vs inside the mileages are pretty close, within 5-10%. It’s interesting, though not all that valuable, to look at mileages in large snapshots (seasons) and year over year.

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Think mean speed - TR does great job of estimating virtual power!

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Just use a head unit and pair it to your speed sensor…you can then get any metric you want…except virtual power.

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He won’t have that option since he has a dumb trainer.

I had no idea that was a feature, thanks! At least it makes a little more sense when people talk about speed/distance on the trainer with that enabled (otherwise your speed chart is just a cadence chart with the axis shifted arbitrarily).

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Hi, if this is ever implemented please make it “off” by default. Thanks.

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