Everesting Training Tips


#21

Not detracting from that one little bit. It’s a serious day out which deserves all the kudos it draws. Just need to be clear which bucket it falls into.


#22

Thanks very much :+1:


#23

Did you use the same climb for each attempt or a different one?


#24

55% to 60% is basically what I was thinking. The hill I’ve picked is about 1:30-1:45 to climb up and :30min down. 8 laps. I was hoping to use the down hill sections to eat some real food and recover a little so I won’t be just bombing down. Which computer did you use? Battery life is another concern I have. I’ll have to purchase a computer because right now I use my garmin 310xt watch.


#25

I used the Garmin 520 with an external battery pack.


#26

*32,112’ climbed :wink:

https://www.strava.com/activities/761161297/

The crazy weather had our Garmins all reading very low. Couple that with the delirium of riding your bike up mountains for that long and we second guessed our plan and added in a bunch of repeats on Art Center Hill just outside of Pasadena.

We didn’t do an official Everesting attempt, but none of us fancied the idea of riding up the same climb the whole time. We were after a heck of an experience we would never forget, on a route we were afraid to build. We got a memorable experience in spades!

Some tips on everesting:

  1. Your IF needs to be shockingly low. I think ours was around .5, and while it felt easy in the beginning, I was grateful for it later on.

  2. Little things matter: I switched to tubeless 28s, disc brakes and Di2 just before the ride, and it those three points seriously added up. Every single imperfection in the surface started to hurt around mile 175, and the 28s helped a lot. The disc brakes allowed me to get a ton of braking power with very little physical effort, and the Di2 made shifting (especially the front derailleur) a breeze. Those little movements and contractions add up on such a long ride.

  3. Bring a grocery store: We didn’t bring a large enough variety of food, and it was an absolute chore to choke down the same stuff toward the latter parts of the ride.

  4. Take frequent, short breaks: We had two people in our group that acted as the reminders to keep breaks short, but we scheduled them frequently. It helped keep morale high and encouraged us to put that new pair of gloves or extra layer on when we otherwise would have favored not stopping.

  5. Gearing: Go way lower than you think. Your ego will be sad upon ordering, your body will be happy upon pedaling.

  6. Refresh your bike: Replace tires, cables and other products that can wear out and easily cause mechanicals. You don’t need any extra opposition out there.


#27

Awesome tips. I have toyed with the idea of this task and I think you nailed some good ideas here. Thanks for the info.


#28

Any ginormous fitness gains after that monster day?

I guess it’s no different than actually climbing Mt. Everest – you go slow, with lots of breaks, food, and equipment. It’s not a race, it’s an accomplishment.

Speaking of which…there was a dude in the 90’s who rode his bike from Sweden (I think) to the actual Mt. Everest, climbed the mountain – solo, then got back on his bike and rode back to Sweden. Anyone know his name?


#29

Anyone considered doing a virtual Everesting before their actual Everesting to see how they fare?

Or would that risk demotivating you for the big day. Say you did it a month apart, that could be enough time for the memory of it to fade.


#30

I’m contemplating doing it virtually… thinking about doing basecamp to basecamp 1 first :wink: That will be doing 25% first. Then at a later date doing 50% and eventually making it to 100%. Looking at doing Alpe Du Zwift, know the “difficulty setting” (badly named Zwift realism gear setting) has to be set at 100%. That way gearing will be like doing it outdoors.

You feel every change in the virtual road on 100% and have to use more gears and switch more often. Done half ADZ on 100% realism, and its so much harder, changes in cadence, gear switching etc all takes it toil


#31

When ADZ was released I tried it at 70% on the Neo and it was brutal. I’ve done it a whole bunch of times since, it’s my favourite thing to do on Zwift, but always at 40% now.

100% will be absolute torture. Over 8 laps of that! There was a mass vEveresting on ADZ I think. Not sure how that went. Would have been amazing motivational boost to do as a group. Just that touch of competitiveness and camaraderie to keep you going.

Unless you’re last :smiley:


#32

As with a real E, you want LOW gearing with a vE.

I may try one this winter too, as I have considered a rE as well. I have a Wahoo Climb that would also help with realism along the way.


#33

I train with a mountain bike so have low gearing already… 32 on front 42-10 on rear… (one of the reasons I have my realism down in the 30% region, else I find I spin out easily on flats and descents) but imagine I’d be grinding in the 42 most of the time on that climb at 100%…

Maybe stick several bricks under the front wheel for a poor mans Wahoo climb realism :wink:

I’ll keep a look out for another Zwift mass vEvesting event… see how long I can last, something to look out for after the WWDD event :slight_smile:


#34

So would that be 50% intensity for the entire ride, including the down hills? Or did you do 50% ftp up? I’m still unsure what intensity I should aim for. I have approximately 1 1/2h up and then 30min back down again 8x. That’s quick a bit of recovery between efforts.


#35

Here are the rides:


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https://www.strava.com/activities/761161297


#36

I’m referring to .5 IF being the end result. I tried my best to ride as close to 50% when climbing, but that is almost impossible while climbing. When descending, I coasted as much as possible. In other words, I pedaled as easy as I could except during flat sections (very rare), in which case I would try to ride at 50%. However, if you are doing a proper Everesting attempt and have a decent hill selected for the task, I doubt you’ll have any flat sections. :slight_smile:


#37

50%? My FTP is 300w, there is noway I could climb a hill at 150 watts. I’d say 65 to 70%.


#38

I have one failed Everesting attempt behind me and this is the mistake I made - in the end it was knee pain that made me stop.

If I did it again I’d do some low-cadence training and some squats to built strength and stability, then get an 11-32 for the event and keep my spin high.