I’ve got a set of the InsideRide rollers and love them - I always think it would be awesome to be able to have erg mode on the rollers for TR (especially longer steady-power intervals), but it seems like every 6 months InsideRide is coming out with a new version of the smart resistance unit, which has been causing me to hold back on buying…just wondering what everyone’s experience with it. Thanks!
The old Elite version seemed plagued with issues, from what I saw.
Their “new” InsideRide designed and sourced one is interesting. It appears to be the final version of their original attempt at smart resistance years ago. The Elite option may well have been a stop-gap.
I have not seen any reviews or comments on the new unit.
It definitely looks interesting. Would be nice to know how well it’s executed
For sure. I follow them on FB and they are pushing the new unit.
But I haven’t see any info from a customer yet.
I’m still looking for a better explanation of the upside. To be clear i do love my rollers and have the Elite unit. As a ‘trainer’ though its sometimes a little too kind — allowing me to spin to achieve power levels in a way I have trouble replicating on the bike. Going to try to mix it up between the KICKR core and the rollers this year.
The problems with the Elite unit that i saw were difficulties in calibrating/updating the firmware. The combination worked fine on TrainerRoad/Zwift which both seem to favor the power meter over the trainer. Sufferfest/Rouvy favor the trainer reported power and it was off by a good margin. My impression of the new resistance unit is they’re doing onboard power matching by sniffing the bike’s power meter… I can see this introducing new compatibility issues.
I’m currently shopping for a new trainer, and the e-motion rollers looked interesting, so I called InsideRide and spoke with Larry.
He said that the smart controller works like a normal smart trainer, adjusting resistance according to the software’s (Zwift, TR, etc.) commands, the only difference being the ends of the power spectrum where the rollers don’t go.
So if TR asks for 1000w, the contoller will max out at whatever it maxes out at, and you’ll just have to spin faster to get there (if possible).
I don’t own this product, but I thought I’d share what I learned talking with Larry. If you’re interested, just find their contact page online, and give ‘em a call or email. They were friendly and answered my questions. Hope this helps.
Thanks @teuthis, that’s helpful.
I’m considering getting the electronic resistance unit for my Inside Ride E-Motion rollers after doing my first “microburst” workout today. With the resistance set to Level 2, I can usually get all resistance range needed for most workouts, by just shifting gears.
The problem is with the short microbursts in Spanish Needle, I had to shift my front derailleur once and shift my rear derailleur 3–4 clicks, every 15 seconds. I have a mechanical groupset and was able to do it and hit my targets, but it was tedious. And with six intervals @ 8min. each, that’s a lot of wear and tear on the components. I think I shifted more in today’s workout than in the past three weeks!?
If anyone has the electronic resistance for the E-Motions, I’d love to know how well it works with microburst workouts? Does it decrease the amount of shifting needed?
Inside Ride’s November sale prompted me to buy, so this week I ordered the E-motion Smart Control ($1020 with coupon). If FedEx doesn’t get lost on the way to my house, I’ll be on the rollers for Thanksgiving.
It’ll be my first time ever on any kind of roller and my first time ever on a trainer with Erg and sim modes.
My current setup is a Powertap G3 hub on a Kurt Road Machine, and I like that the trainer is ignorant of whatever app I’m using. If I’m climbing Alpe Du Zwift, for example, I can roll gently (albeit very slowly) along at 100w if I want, no grinding necessary. And in TR, it’s totally up to me to hit my target watts.
So it’s gonna be an interesting holiday for me, learning to ride rollers first, then experimenting with all the smart trainer features I’ve never had. I’ll be back with an update then.
Congrats on the purchase @Teuthis! I can’t speak to the SmartPower resistance control, but I’ve had my E-Motions since 2014 and love 'em! I’ve been riding rollers for over 20 years, most of that time on Kreitlers, which are also quality rollers. But the E-Motions were still a big step up. The floating frame really makes riding them feel so natural. And between the side bumpers and the “safety” rollers, they’ll be a great learn on.
One tip for the first few times, is to put them in a doorway so your shoulders line up with the door frame. That way your shoulders will bump the door frame before your front wheel hits the side bumpers. Those bumpers do prevent you from riding off the rollers, but it’s still possible to slowly creep over to the edge, hit the bumper, and have your weight continue sideways so you start to fall over!
Occasionally it’ll happen to me, which is why I ride with a wall on my left and a tall makeshift table on my right. When it does, I just quickly “dab” my hand out. Usually it’ll happen while watching a cycling video with twisty descents, where my subconscious takes over and wants to follow the road!
Okay, @Bikr, I’ll make a bold prediction just for funzies, though I’ll probably jinx myself by doing so.
I’ve read alotta posts and watched alotta videos about learning to ride rollers, and I can’t help but suspect rampant fearmongering, with everyone warning noobs to wear safety harnesses and set up their rollers in inflatable bouncy castles, lest they crash to their fiery deaths, to which I respond “horsehockey!” (props to Colonel Potter).
I bet I’ll get up and rolling along with no problems and without doorways/walls/tables/parachutes. What I DO worry about are those hard training sessions that require all my concentration just to hold my watts, nevermind staying upright. Or more likely, the recovery just after an interval like that when I relax and grab a towel or bottle, forgetting to balance in my exhaustion. And since inattention would be the cause of that off, a wall or table would be just another thing to hit on the way to the floor.
I’ll letcha know next week.
Those difficulties and risk during the super hard efforts and subsequent recoveries are the reason I moved away from my DIY motion rollers. I love them for Endurance and up to Sweet Spot work. But they are a ton of work for the more taxing efforts.
My love for the feel and freedom of motion rollers is what lead me to make my first rocker plate. I wanted something closer to the rollers, but with a bit more support and security. If I had more room, I’d have both setup and swap between rollers and a rocker plate trainer depending on workout intensity.
I agree completely.
I’m keeping my Road Machine just for that reason, and if I really prefer the E-motions for the feel and smart control but need more stability for hard sessions, I’ll go ahead and purchase their “Floating Fork Stand,” which seems like a neat idea anyway.