New shoe cleat adjustment

clothing

#1

This is mainly a rant post.

Why must it be so painful to get the cleat position right on a new set of shoes!?!

No matter how you measure it - it’s always wrong

I suspect the stack height is a fraction higher on the new shoes which doesn’t help things!


#2

I think it has more to do with the shape of the new shoes and the effect of that over the measurements.


#3

Can anyone help to explain this?

Hip -> Knee -> Ankle angles

Top of pedal stroke.
Old shoes - 81 degrees
New shoes - 80 degrees
New shoes - saddle up 3mm 77 degrees

Example:

Guessing some measurement error - but I’m going to assume the only difference can possibly be ankle movement? I would have expected that saddle going up would increase the angle rather than decrease.


#4

I realize this is an old post. Searching for something else and and saw this. Just interested…Are you frustrated with cleat position as in alignment? I use this if so:
https://www.amazon.com/Ergon-TP1-Shimano-Cleat-Tool/dp/B0039TJYO2/ref=asc_df_B0039TJYO2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312111916046&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13225236455913713923&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029983&hvtargid=pla-440195614479&psc=1

Or are you frustrated with the difference in stack from shoe to shoe due to sole thickness? If so I just find the center of the first metatarsophalangeal joint and mark the shoe with a paint pen. Put the shoes on a level surface and measure up to that point. A new pair of Vittoria shoes measures about 5mm less than my DMT’s.