The Bell curve of cylists - how fast are the average TR users?


#184

I agree, I thought I was way lower on the totem pole because I am just over moo hundred lbs or 91kg. Turns out I am right in the middle of the pack! I felt pretty good when I saw that.


#185

Everybody (inc myself) is looking for the magic formula, unfortunately there are too many variables (inc our DNA) for this.

I think the best we can hope for is “bands” such as;

In the 40-50yr age group the best FTP increase results seen are xxhrs / week @ xxIF. Using this base data Chad can get busy redefining the training plans :open_mouth:

It’s stretching my statistical knowledge but you could probably enter a required FTP and the data could give you a plan with a % chance of achieving it. (based on your age / time required)

Depending on your individual genetic make up and life stress will depend on how near the top or bottom of the band you are.

Interesting project though.:sunglasses:


#186

This totally relies on people logging truthfully and consistently though.

I use myfitnesspal nearly everyday, but some days (quite regularly) I don’t finish it due to various factors (knowing i’m nicely under the goal, knowing im way over, complicated meal I can’t be arsed to log etc) :blush:


#187

@CZS I was thinking along the same lines as you a while ago:

As someone pointed out, the main issue is ensuring accuracy of the data collected.


#188

@Nate thank you for posting the data, i dont see it as negative, folks need to make of it what they will… just like each work out, race or whatever… on the Strava Segment front i love the fact your seeing that as a challenge to drive you and it will make for great smack talk going forward on the podcasts, i feel the same about a few segments around my way… though i have turned off notifications for winter :slight_smile: just please stay healthy using what you have learnt about your previous lessons…would hate to see you be burn’t out for that windy day … LoL good luck sir !


#189

Hey @Nate,

If you are adding this could you have user selected reason code? I often have to stop workout early due to time pressures or a child needing help etc. Having the ability to filter out the workouts where I failed vs had to stop would be really cool. If the pick list was user specific & maintainable that would also be a great addition…

Keep up the good work! You are the most accessible CEO of any of the fitness products I use. I think this is awesome


#190

My friend told me about this site/app called mywindsock that you can just have notify you when wind is favourable for your segment of choice :wink:

(I haven’t tested it out and can’t comment on the quality of this product but it looks cool! And might save you time checking weather forecasts…)


#191

I’ve used the basic version of mywindsock and it is pretty cool.

I imagine the wind notifications are part of the premium membership though.


#192

Yup, we understand this and we’ve got a few questions lined up for workouts where you didn’t complete them exactly as prescribed.


#193

Woo hoo, I’m totally average for females at age 52!


#194


#195

Know what, a podcast about Grit is an awesome idea. Some of us actually are working on becoming more resilient rather than just faster :slight_smile:

You could also feature athletes from ultra endurance events as well (including TransAm, and so much more). Their training and preparation is pretty much uncharted territory


#196

Really interesting curves - especially the age ones @Nate I’ve struggled to make any real FTP gains these last few years as I turned 50 (albeit my P/W has gone up due to weight loss). So actually I’m pleased that I am still holding on to what I have! The struggle is real!


#197

Ive had 2 pioneers single sided meters and they have been fantastic, the best single sided PM you can get but massively underrated.


#198

Plugging a different podcast - The Cycling Podcast have just launched a series called Explore https://thecyclingpodcast.com/explore

The first episode was about The Transcontinental Race, the second about Australia including The Indian Pacific Wheel Race and the third which I partly listened to whilst doing a TR workout is about Lands End to John O’Groats


#199

I hear ya… but the human factor is always going to be the limiting factor I would think.

As for complicated meals (i.e. Thanksgiving Dinner) I just guesstimate on the calories and don’t bother with the rest. Other than that I always try to complete each day even if it’s a couple of days late.

My log streak on MFP is 1557 days and counting. :slight_smile:


#200

I know, it’s crazy to think that if you just maintained your power between 40 and 50 you’re really moving to the right side of the bell curve like you increased your watt/kg by .25. That’s pretty significant in my mind!

If you also get a bit smarter (as we all do) and can race better you can really improve your results even though your raw watt/kg didn’t move.


#201

You are average in the "highly-motivated and smart’ category. These are cyclists who own power meters and want to train indoors with TrainerRoad. That puts you in rarefied air to start with!


#202

Mines 3.85 according to virtual power.

I’ll just assume it’s in the 3’s W/kgs in real power terms.

So pretty average. I’m in the recovery week of ssbmv1 so we’ll see if TR works. :slight_smile:


#203

More fun data! This time I pulled raw FTP data for men and women.

Interesting facts:

  • The top of the bell curve for Men is between 230-240 watts.
  • Men “mess up” the bell curve at 200 and 300 watts; both are “over reported” and don’t fit the bell curve. My guess is that men tend to round up at these numbers due to our egos :rofl:. I know I’ve been at 290 before and went “Might as well make it an even 300!”.
  • Women seem to suffer the same rounding up issues as men at 200 watts.
  • The top of the bell curve for women is between 150-160 (80 watts lower than men).

Men Raw FTP

Women Raw FTP