Wet or dry lube for mtb?


#1

Autumn here in northern Europe. Wet or dry lube for mtb?
I clean my chain after every ride so cleaning will be easier using a dry lube but will it last my ride or should I choose wet lube to protect the drivetrain but more difficult to keep clean?
best regards
Joel


#2

Common rule of thumb is to use the same lube type as your trail/environmental conditions.

Wet Trails & Weather = Wet Lube

Dry/Dusty Trails & Weather = Dry Lube

Idea being that wet lube in a dry environment will attract and hold dust, which can lead to premature wear (and don’t forget the bigger evil… power loss :stuck_out_tongue: ).


#3

Squirt Lube. The end.


#4

Really? I’m hugely underwhelmed by Squirt. I maybe applied it wrongly (too much, too little) but all it did was gather around my jockey wheels or ball up and flick off the chain.

I’ll stick to Morgan blue race oil.


#5

Squirt Lube. The end.

+1 here


#6

I guess I don’t know exactly how you used it, but I’ve not had those issues. It is true that the excess will crumble off, but its only excess, the chain is still getting the lube it needs where it needs. It is so much cleaner and easier. I’m sure there are plenty of applications instructions online, but I’ve found it works well to wipe the chain down good with blue shop towel, then put about one drop on each roller. Then roll the rollers around with your finger to work it down the sides of the roller, then spin the whole chain a few times, and let it dry. This means its best to lube before you want to ride.

Whatever magical recipe they have developed at squirt works way better than any other wax lube I’ve tried. Once the moisture is evaporated, the chain is left buttery smooth. Should thoroughly clean off any other lube product prior to switching over to Squirt. Can run the chain through a few ultrasonic baths of degreaser/cleaner rinse cycles, or boil and rinse repeats until there is no oil product. Rinse the chain thoroughly and make sure its totally dry by putting in oven or hair dryer for a while. Then give it a good Squirt bath for the initial application. After that only need the routine little applications you’d normally do like if you were using petroleum based lube. Its great stuff. I was surprised to hear that you had a bad experience with it. Good luck if you try it again.


#7

After all of the discussion about waxing chains, I’ve been thinking about giving Squirt a try. Just not up to buying all of the equipment/taking the time to start dip waxing my chains, second best option seems to be Squirt. I’m also a fan of just wiping my chain down and relubing after every 60-100mi’s.


#8

FWIW, I have not loathed a lube more than Squirt in a long time.

Super disappointed after reading all the hype and positive reviews. Someone asked if maybe I had a counterfeit bottle, so I tried 3 bottles from different sources… no change. I was also asked if I cleaned my chains enough before the first application; the answer is yes. I used an ultrasonic cleaner with degreaser and did 3 heated baths/cycles on each chain, and then baked them after to completely dry them. They were as clean as clean can get.

My problem is two-fold, with the biggest issue being that this stuff is just incredibly messy. People are saying “no more greasy black hands after handling my chain”… what the ? All three of the chains/bikes I applied Squirt on ended up sticky, black, goo EVERYWHERE. I was figuring the wax in Squirt would dry harder than it does. It stays rather soft, like playdoh, and it’s very sticky. Despite what the Squirt marketing material says, the excess does NOT flake off during riding. Instead, it collects on your derailleur pulleys, cassette, and chainring. I went through a ton of shop towels trying to keep my drivetrain mildly clean with Squirt on there. I ended up putting new chains on and completely ditching Squirt after about 2 weeks, and I’m STILL finding black wax goo in random places, including making a mess of my shop and basement floor near the trainer… 6 months later.

The other issue is that it just didn’t seem to last all that long from a lubrication stand point either. My drivetrain would start developing noise within a couple hour MTB ride, where as the ProGold Xtreme I have used for years (and have went back to) works silently and cleanly for 4-5+ hour MTB rides. Been back on PGX now for 6 months on all my bikes, no complaints, no mess, no chain noise.


#9

The way you describe Squirt, it sounds very similar to Boeshield to me (in regards to the waxy messy buildup). I tried Boeshield and ended up switching for some of the same reasons you mention. I currently use ProLink Gold as well. Application is easy and I can go 100+mi before my chain even starts to think about squeaking. It also doesn’t collect a bunch of grime. Maybe I’ll just stick with that. Thanks for sharing your experience.